Dear my good friend, Die Hipster;
First off did you know that “die” means “the” in German? So if you were in an ironic indie-rock German heavy-trance band, your name means “the Hipster” – and it is kind of true. Besides the old obvious points showing how hipster you are, such as that you post on wordpress, own an iphone with twitter features you also have the following hipster characteristics – you hate to be attacked, you love to judge (especially fashion), and of course, you don’t listen.
Allow me to respond to your lovely prose from the safety of my blog.
“You actually think the people we bash on here have nothing to do with high rents?” – what does that mean, DH? I just wrote a post that said that you can attack hipsters quite validly in that they are part of what is driving up rent in your area. But as I wrote in the past – it’s a bigger issue. It’s globalization. It’s foreign investment in Manhattan, population increasing, and more importantly – the rich getting richer. Rich Dad and Mom can pay for their kid to be a worthless lazy brat – and hence the hipster is created. It’s easy to hate on the hipster, but if you want to get serious, you gotta see the forest from the trees.
“You think Midwestern and western ‘hipster’ culture easily blends in the real melting pot of Brooklyn?” – culture is culture – whether you like it or not. As I said, there is a McDonalds right by the JM subway line – I don’t like McDonalds – but it’s there. And that’s that. I don’t like Duane Reade moving in, Kings is nice, but that’s that. You can’t generalize that all middle-class people bring bad culture. Some bring good. As I talked about in the original Mast Brothers post, I rather see the Mast Bros store than a McDonalds. They are making something in Brooklyn at a time that most the industry has closed up shop and left. And as I said before, the industry left first – due to globalization. Domino Sugar closed down because they could do their thing for cheaper Lords knows whereever they do it. But hey, I guess we all have our opinions about what is good culture and what is bad culture. Next you call me a moron – and other name-calling. What does that do to your credibility? I know you’re angry – so am I – but I don’t need to start calling you a “jerk” or stuff like that.
I originally came on the site pretending to be a hipster, because people can see me as a hipster even though I’m not one. I said I was rich because all us Americans are rich. In the U.S. world, my parents aren’t upper-class, they are upper-middle class. I moved to Williamsburg because I wanted to live on my own. I’m not going to lie, I’m not middle class or working class, but I never said I was. I’m from an upper middle class home and I hate the class divides in the U.S. and especially the way things work, making the rich richer.
“You now try to pull off that you’re one of us but fighting hipsterism and yupsterism in a pro-active way?” – Well I worked on some documentaries about gentrification – so I guess in some small ways – (in a very small way) you are right. I also donate my work and gear to films that inspire me – and one recently looked at cultural collisions between working class and middle class cultures. This isn’t like I’m out there on the street trying to help but I think it’s more than your contribuation. What do you do, DH to help your cause? Yea, you’re right – I don’t do much. Besides shopping locally I don’t really do that much. I hope that will change.
“For christs sake you did the sterotypical thing and practically copied my domain and site. Just like all hipsters steal from the past.” – I copied your domain and site because it’s called satire. Satire is when you copy something and make fun of it. I used it to show people what I interpret your site to be. And what’s kind of funny about your statement is that you claim you created your site design when you are just using a popular template on WordPress.com. Your site design is nothing original. I didn’t steal your code.
Notice how real New yorkers (ie multi-generationals, new and old immigrants, people of all kinds of color etc) don’t come on this site telling me I’m wrong or cruel. All the comments and emails I get are telling how funny and how right this site is. Does Texas Triffid “Paul Riddell” count as a native NYer? How about “I Killed Josh?” (who you had a tiff over cause you accused him of saying rascist things.) How about Yuppie Killer? All these guys are not native New Yorkers. And they are some of your biggest fans.
I think the people who like your site like that it’s there – it’s a voice of dissent. I like that it’s there. But please, can’t there be another voice of dissent that’s not so full of hate and character assisinations and cruelty? Can’t there be a voice of dissent that does not have commentors who go on other blogs and attack them? Can’t there be another voice of dissent that does not laugh at the death of girl who died while biking? Can’t there be another voice of dissent that does not throw out so much homophobic comments?
I don’t claim to create that site. My site is purely my project. You are my art project. And you are my star.
“See, here we post something, abuse it for a day or two and move on. You’re so into exposing people that you dwell on it for weeks at a time. We expose hipsters in general. You are caught up on a few people related to this site. Remember, you, like Stevie came to me. I didn’t come to you. You might regret fucking with the wrong person. So I would seriously suggest getting a new hobby or go back to playing with Daddys cameras.”
You’re absolutely right, DH. I should move on. You do expose hipsters, but you also at the same time are exposing yourself and your “crew.” For all you are – you’re a bunch of guys who don’t know how to have a debate without resorting to the basest level of name-calling and also guys who seem to not have the ability to want to learn from others with different viewpoints. Your obsession over hipsters is mind-blowing. I think you need a new hobby. Hipsters are funny to make fun of, but having true hate towards any sort of person is really sickening. Also attacking people is one thing – but attacking a person is another. For one, to me, it’s wrong. And I will continue to attack anyone who attacks someone else. As a refresher to everyone, my great-grand parents on my mother’s side all died in concentration camps in the Holocaust. I am alive. And I know that if they could have talked to me, they would tell me that I have to do whatever it takes to fight anyone who hates on another person. I know it’s kind of funny to hate on hipsters, but there is something about how you guys do it that sets off all my alarms. Now after three months, I see more and more that most of you guys are really not out to hurt anyone – but are just frustrated at how the world is turning out. So I don’t really hate you anymore.
As I said in the past, I’ve learned a lot from you guys. I make more of an effort to get to know people of different economic classes than my own. But you guys can’t move on – you can’t really seem to learn or shake off other viewpoints. Instead you attack and attack and attack.
Case in point was the arrival of Native NYer who spoke his/her mind in a reasonable manner. You couldn’t have that. You stereotyped who he was and attacked and attacked just like me when I posted on your site. Most people can shrug it off and just move on.
But I’m different. I try to learn from the experience and really understand it and turn it into a project.
Please some guys come on this site and actually let’s talk about things. You are right about many things and I’m wrong about many things. But I don’t feel like getting cut in my stomach everytime I try to go on your site and actually engage some people who seem worthy of being engaged.
Edd C. R. David III